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Conservative talk radio, bringing midwestern, common sense approach to the very complex issues we face around the United States and around the world. #SteveGruberShow
Conservative talk radio, bringing midwestern, common sense approach to the very complex issues we face around the United States and around the world. #SteveGruberShow
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Wednesday Nov 26, 2025
Michael J. Reitz | What Really Drove Michigan’s Lockdowns?
Wednesday Nov 26, 2025
Wednesday Nov 26, 2025
Guest host Scot Bertram talks with Michael J. Reitz, executive vice president of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, about Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s recent claim that Michigan’s COVID lockdowns were driven by “bad information.” Reitz unpacks what that admission means, revisits the policies that shaped Michigan during the pandemic, and explains why accountability and transparency still matter. A clear-eyed conversation on lessons learned, and the ones still being ignored.

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